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Australian poetry classics: John Forbes’ On the Beach exposes the nation’s myths of convenience

The Conversation · 🇦🇺 public Australia · · 1930 words · By Aidan Coleman
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What to know about Australian poetry classics: John Forbes’ On the Beach exposes the nation’s myths of convenience

The article provides a biographical and critical overview of the work of Australian poet John Forbes. It discusses his early influences, his struggle with poverty and addiction, and analyzes key collections such as 'The Stunned Mullet' and 'Damaged Glamour'.

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What happened

In this series, we explore influential Australian poems.

Why it matters

When John Forbes (1950–98) died of a heart attack at the young age of 47, he left behind a slim but remarkable body of work.

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His Collected Poems recently went into a fifth reprinting.

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The article provides a biographical and critical overview of the work of Australian poet John Forbes. It discusses his early influences, his struggle with poverty and addiction, and analyzes key collections such as 'The Stunned Mullet' and 'Damaged Glamour'.

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Claim 1: “In his final decade, in which he moved to Melbourne, Forbes published New and Selected Poems (1992).”
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Claim 2: “Forbes’ strongest collection is The Stunned Mullet (1988). The book was funded by the Australian bicentennial authority.”
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Claim 3: “John Forbes (1950–98) died of a heart attack at the young age of 47”
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Multiple independent sources confirm John Forbes (poet) lived from 1950 to 1998 and died of a heart attack at age 47. This is confirmed by Poetry International, AHR, and Wikipedia.
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes Nash Jr. (June 13, 1928 – May 23, 2015), known and published as John Nash, was an American mathematician who made fundamental contributions to game theory, real algebraic geometry, differe…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes may refer to:
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes (1 September 1950 – 23 January 1998) was an Australian poet. Forbes was born in Melbourne, but during his childhood his family lived in northern Queensland, Malaya and New Guinea. He went …
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Claim 4: “Educated at De La Salle Catholic boys’ schools in the Sydney suburbs of Carringbah and Cronulla”
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While Wikipedia provides information on De La Salle schools in other locations (Detroit, Philadelphia, Philippines), no evidence was found confirming John Forbes attended these schools in Carringbah and Cronulla, Sydney.
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — De La Salle Collegiate High School is an all-boys Catholic high school run by the De La Salle Christian Brothers. Founded in 1926, the school was located on the east side of Detroit before moving to i…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — La Salle University () is a private Catholic university in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States. The university was founded in 1863 by the Institute of the Brothers of the Christian Schools and n…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — The University of St. La Salle (USLS) is a Catholic private research university run by the De La Salle Brothers, located in La Salle Avenue, Bacolod, Negros Occidental, Philippines. Established in 195…
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Claim 5: “Forbes lived in increasing penury. He was forced to take a range of casual jobs, from telemarketing and furniture removal to working in a tinsel factory. He also taught creative writing.”
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web search NEUTRAL — John (/ dʒɒn / JON) is a very common given male name in the English language, ultimately of Hebrew origin. Traditionally in the Anglosphere, it was the most common, although it has not been since the …
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web search NEUTRAL — John is also associated with the pseudepigraphal apocryphal text of the Acts of John, which is traditionally viewed as written by John himself or his disciple, Leucius Charinus.
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web search NEUTRAL — 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a w…
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Claim 6: “Four Heads won the 1972 New Poetry Award”
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Claim 7: “He was a mentor to a broad array of poets, from Adam Aitken, Steve Kelen, Antony Lawrence and John Kinsella, to Luke Davies, Dipti Saravanamuttu and Emma Lew.”
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Claim 8: “Forbes’ final collection Damaged Glamour was published posthumously.”
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Claim 9: “became more dependent on the codeine-based medicine he began consuming in his early twenties.”
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web search NEUTRAL — David Malouf declared John Forbes ‘the most elegant and inventive poet’ of his generation.He also taught creative writing. As he aged, he drank more heavily and became more dependent on the codeine-ba…
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web search NEUTRAL — In his poem “The Choice,” W. B. Yeats wrote: “The intellect of man is forced to choose / Perfection of the life, or of the work.” This Yeatsian bargain recurs often in the poetry of John Forbes (1950–…
https://www.harvardreview.org/content/john-forbes-australias…
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web search NEUTRAL — Codeine is also available in combination with acetaminophen and aspirin, and as an ingredient in many cough and cold medications. This monograph only includes information about the use of codeine.
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Claim 10: “A biography and anthology of his prose writings will be published in 2027.”
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — The Forbes family is one of the components of the Boston Brahmins—a wealthy extended American family long prominent in Boston, Massachusetts. The family built their initial multi-generational fortune …
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes Nash Jr. (June 13, 1928 – May 23, 2015), known and published as John Nash, was an American mathematician who made fundamental contributions to game theory, real algebraic geometry, differe…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Murray Forbes (February 23, 1813 – October 12, 1898) was an American railroad magnate, merchant, opium merchant, philanthropist and abolitionist. He was president of both the Michigan Central rai…
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Claim 11: “Forbes wrote Ode/Goodbye Memory, Ode to Tropical Skiing, Angel, To the Bobbydazzlers and Rrose Sélavy.”
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Claim 12: “A colloquial but original master’s thesis on New York poet Frank O’Hara was ultimately abandoned.”
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — Father Was a Fullback is a 1949 black-and-white film from 20th Century Fox based on a comedy by Clifford Goldsmith. The film is about a college American football coach and his woes. The film stars Fre…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes (1 September 1950 – 23 January 1998) was an Australian poet. Forbes was born in Melbourne, but during his childhood his family lived in northern Queensland, Malaya and New Guinea. He went …
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — The Quiet Man is a 1952 American romantic comedy drama film directed and produced by John Ford, and starring John Wayne, Maureen O'Hara, Victor McLaglen, Barry Fitzgerald, Arthur Shields and Ward Bond…
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Claim 13: “Forbes championed the poetry of avant-garde allies in his work as an editor with the literary journal Scripsi and in his own magazine Surfers Paradise.”
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Claim 14: “His Collected Poems recently went into a fifth reprinting.”
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web search NEUTRAL — John Forbes Nash, Jr.; 13 июня 1928, Блуфилд, Западная Виргиния — 23 мая 2015, Монро, Нью-Джерси) — американский математик, работавший в области теории игр, дифференциальной геометрии и изучения уравн…
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web search NEUTRAL — When John Forbes (1950–98) died of a heart attack at the young age of 47, he left behind a slim but remarkable body of work. He is still influential and widely read. His Collected Poems recently went …
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web search NEUTRAL — Forbes’ poetry was first published in New Poetry in 1971. By the time his first collection, Tropical Skiing, was published in 1976, his work had drawn a considerable following that has since continued…
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Claim 15: “he studied arts [at the University of Sydney]”
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — Alison Forbes (born 1933) is an Australian book designer and illustrator. Over a period of five decades she has worked as Australia's "first full-time independent book designer", and produced many pri…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — Georgina Hope Rinehart (née Hancock, born 9 February 1954) is an Australian billionaire mining magnate, businesswoman, and heiress. She is the executive chairman of Hancock Prospecting, a privately ow…
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wikipedia NEUTRAL — John Forbes (1 September 1950 – 23 January 1998) was an Australian poet. Forbes was born in Melbourne, but during his childhood his family lived in northern Queensland, Malaya and New Guinea. He went …
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