What to know about America’s war on Iran and the emerging Thucydidean world order - Opinion
Reply To: Name - Reply Comment In the Trumpian world order -– similar to the Thucydidean world – the international law, the UN, or assorted international organisations no longer set normative parameters for state behaviour In 416 BC, Athenian historian…
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Reply To: Name - Reply Comment In the Trumpian world order -– similar to the Thucydidean world – the international law, the UN, or assorted international organisations no longer set normative parameters for state behaviour In 416 BC, Athenian historian…
Why it matters
The interaction, dramatised as the Melian dialogue in his treatise, The History of the Peloponnesian War, is one of the best-remembered anecdotes of the brutal reality of the international system, and a starting point for any student of international politics.
Common ground
During the siege of Melos, when the Athenians demanded unconditional submission, the Melian leaders invoked morality and fairness.
Perspective signals
No major persuasion pattern has been attached yet, so the source, headline, and evidence should carry most of the weight for readers.
Follow-up questions
What terms are actually in the Iran proposal, and which side would have to compromise first?
What evidence would most clearly confirm or weaken the claim that The American and Israeli war on Iran does not satisfy the requirements of international law for the use of force; and therefore, is an unlawful act of armed aggression?
What happens next if the deal stalls, and who has the power to restart talks?
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Claim 1: “The American and Israeli war on Iran does not satisfy the requirements of international law for the use of force; and therefore, is an unlawful act of armed aggression.”
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Claim 2: “Only two leaders command the unflinching deference of Donald Trump: Vladimir Putin of Russia and Xi Jinping of China.”
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Claim 3: “The American war on Iran has eroded the post-World War II international consensus that the sovereignty and survival of nation-states are granted.”
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Claim 4: “Economic sanctions can only go so far, as the Russian example explains. It would be even less if sanctions were ever imposed on China.”
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Claim 5: “In 416 BC, Athenian historian Thucydides enacted a dramatic negotiation between Athenian invaders and the leaders of the neutral small state of Melos.”
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— The History of the Peloponnesian War () is a historical account of the Peloponnesian War (431–404 BC), which was fought between the Peloponnesian League (led by Sparta) and the Delian League (led by A…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_W…
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— The siege of Melos occurred in 416 BC, during the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, when the Athenians attacked Melos, an island in the Aegean Sea roughly 110 kilometres (68 miles) east of …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos
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— Thucydides ( thew-SID-ih-deez; Ancient Greek: Θουκυδίδης, romanised: Thoukudídēs [tʰuːkydǐdɛːs]; c. 460 – c. 400 BC) was an Athenian historian and general. His History of the Peloponnesian War recount…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thucydides
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Claim 6: “The Melian leaders invoked morality and fairness when the Athenians demanded unconditional submission.”
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— The Delian League was a confederacy of Greek city-states, numbering between 150 and 330, founded in 478 BC under the leadership (hegemony) of Athens, whose purpose was to continue fighting the Persian…
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— Melian may refer to:
an adjectival formation of Milos or Melos, a city in Greece
The Melian Dialogue, Athenian historian Thucydides’ dramatization of negotiations to resolve the Siege of Melos
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— The siege of Melos occurred in 416 BC, during the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, when the Athenians attacked Melos, an island in the Aegean Sea roughly 110 kilometres (68 miles) east of …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos
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Claim 7: “Attacks on civilian infrastructure such as electricity and desalination plants are prohibited under the Rome Statute and would amount to a war crime.”
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Claim 8: “The Athenians responded that morality, justice, and fairness are concepts only applicable between parties of equal power.”
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— The Delian League was a confederacy of Greek city-states, numbering between 150 and 330, founded in 478 BC under the leadership (hegemony) of Athens, whose purpose was to continue fighting the Persian…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delian_League
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— Melian may refer to:
an adjectival formation of Milos or Melos, a city in Greece
The Melian Dialogue, Athenian historian Thucydides’ dramatization of negotiations to resolve the Siege of Melos
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melian
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— The siege of Melos occurred in 416 BC, during the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, when the Athenians attacked Melos, an island in the Aegean Sea roughly 110 kilometres (68 miles) east of …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos
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Claim 9: “Donald Trump’s worldview operates on two premises, which broadly echo Thucydidean words.”
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Claim 10: “Donald Trump, America’s president, has thrown the international system back to the Thucydidean world.”
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Claim 11: “The smaller states in the region, including Sri Lanka, should ponder the shifting norms in the international system.”
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Claim 12: “Trump has a preference for competent autocrats, including leaders like Mohammad bin Salman (MBS), Erdogan, and Xi Jinping.”
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Claim 13: “The UN Charter laid the foundation for international peace and security, and prohibited the use of force, except when authorised by the UN Security Council, or in self-defence against an armed attack.”
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